5 Boring Bar Mistakes That Cause Lathe Chatter

September 8, 2022/4 Comments/in CNC Machining, Large Featured, Micro 100, Turning/by Harvey Performance Company

Boring bar applications are very popular in the lathe and CNC machining industry, as they provide a shop with extreme diversity and accuracy. Running a boring bar properly, however, is essential to ensuring you’re maximizing shop efficiency and achieving outstanding part finish. There are many mistakes that can be made when running boring bars and many that cause excessive machining vibrations or lathe chatter that must be avoided. Learn the five mistakes that could be causing tool chatter in your boring applications and how you can stop this lathe chatter once and for all.

Mistakes Causing Lathe Chatter

Using a Dull Cutter

Boring with a worn-out tool significantly increases cutting forces generated by the cut, potentially leading to lathe chatter. The more a tool is run, the more chance it has for galling, or in other words, built-up edge (BUE), making it imperative to inspect your boring bar before each application. BUE occurs when material is welded onto the cutting tool due to high friction and heat generation during a CNC machining operation. This condition is not desirable because it leads to poor tool life and increased vibrations due to an uneven cutting edge. Stocking your tool crib with great quality boring bars can help reduce BUE by providing a sharp, long lasting cutting edge, catered for your exact application. Learn other ways to reduce BUE in your turning applications, today.

Shows zoomed in effects of built-up edge and wear failure on carbide boring bar which leads to lathe chatter
Image Source: Carbide inserts Wear Failure modes. | machining4.eu, 2022

Utilizing Incorrect Speeds & Feeds

Like many applications, using improper turning speeds & feeds can lead to poor performance. In boring applications, using too high of a chip load can cause deflection, greatly increasing the chances of tool failure. Using too low of a chip load doesn’t allow the tool to cut enough, which causes the tool to bounce off the material, leading to increased tool wear and poor part finish. Discovering the right balance for using chip load is crucial in order to produce a more efficient cut.

lathe turning speeds and feeds

When running a boring bar, it is imperative to use the speeds & feeds recommended for the tool being used. Micro 100 provides downloadable and printer-friendly Speeds & Feeds for all Standard and Quick Change Micro-Quik turning tools.

Lacking Workpiece Support

A main cause of chatter in lathe applications is lack of support on the workpiece. If a workpiece is not properly supported when entering a boring application, the tool will begin to chatter. Not only is it essential to confirm the proper workholding device is being used, but it’s also important to ensure that your setup is as rigid as possible. Learn more about workholding styles and considerations to make sure you’re supporting your workpiece properly in your next boring application.

Uneven Tool Holding

Similarly, tool holding also plays a vital role in the performance of a boring bar application. It is important to select a tool holder that accommodates the tooling being used and is as rigid as possible. Using an improper method of tool holding can lead to tool runout, which occurs when the tool or holder deviates too far off its axis.

Understanding the overall rigidity of your system is a critical step in understanding how to best reduce lathe chatter.

Micro-Quik tool holder with a tool inserted and pointing towards workpiece
Image Source: @abom79

Many machinists opt for tools that promote machining efficiency by boosting the speed at which tool changes occur. For example cutting tool manufacturer Micro 100 offers Micro-Quik Holders, which offer unmatched rigidity, axial and radial repeatability, tip-to-tip consistency, and part-to-part accuracy in tool changes totaling fewer than 30 seconds.

Drilling an Improper Starter Hole

Before starting a boring application, drilling the proper hole is vital to ensuring that the boring bar has sufficient contact with the workpiece to properly stabilize the cut.

If a hole is too large, the boring bar could deflect off of the workpiece. If the hole is too small, there will not be enough clearance for the tool, increasing chances of tool wear and possibly tool failure.

When selecting a drill to prepare the workpiece for your boring applications, there are two dimensions that should be considered: the Head Width and the Minimum Bore Diameter.

Boring bar with line drawing showing where different dimensions are located on the tool

The Head Width, or “H” value on the above line drawing, is the actual width of the boring tool. The Minimum Bore Diameter is a calculated dimension slightly larger in size compared to the head with that is associated with the smallest drill size that should be used to start a boring application. It is recommended to opt for a drill that is the same or slightly larger than the Minimum Bore Diameter of the boring bar being used, to ensure there is proper clearance for the cutting edge.

Utilizing an Inefficient Coolant Strategy

If coolant isn’t aimed properly on the workpiece or if improper coolant is being used, tool life and quality part finish can be significantly reduced. Additionally, if coolant lines are aimed directly at the bore, the pressure of the coolant holds the chips in the bore, causing them to evacuate improperly. This then causes chip recutting, leading to lathe chatter and finish problems.

Opting for a Plumbed and Ported Tool Holder can mitigate this problem, ensuring chips are being properly evacuated out of the cut.

coolant being sprayed onto a part during a cnc machining operation

Machinists generally utilize Flood or High Pressure coolant methods for chip removal. Flood coolant uses low pressure to create lubricity and aid in chip evacuation. On the other hand, high pressure coolant delivers instant cooling of a part and quickly shoots chips away to prevent recutting.

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4 replies
  1. Robert Cochran
    Robert Cochran says:
    September 10, 2022 at 11:24 am

    Such a helpful tool to be able to pull up on you’re phone or desktop. Thanks guys.

    Reply
  2. Chris Terrell
    Chris Terrell says:
    January 16, 2023 at 7:13 pm

    We are getting into boring out a 2″ Id from composite fiber poles. We are reducing the id by .001 at a time and testing. The length of our cut will be about 15″ from the end of the tube. Can you offer what type of boring bar and insert would be best for us?

    Reply
    • Guy Petrillo
      Guy Petrillo says:
      January 17, 2023 at 8:14 am

      Hey Chris,

      Thank you for reaching out, we would need a little more information about the job. Please send an email to [email protected] with all your information and they should respond to you shortly.

      Reply
  3. George Dennison
    George Dennison says:
    December 4, 2023 at 10:51 am

    Re: proper size starting hole

    I have been rolling the comment regarding too large a starting hole & can’t square it.

    As long as the starting hole is under the bore diameter spec, how can it be too large?

    A boring operation started at your optimal dia would pass through a too large, starter dia on the path to final dimension, wouldn’t?

    If it caused no problems passing through the ‘too large’ dia, why would it cause problems to start at that dimension?

    Thanks…

    Reply

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